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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 11:42:54 -0800
From: Andrew Nestler <nestler@usc.edu>
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Subject: Re: )|(: The 40-singles BOX
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Gordon, Gordon, Gordon.

As you know, I never made any claim about the value of the box or of any
tracks inside.  I simply am letting people know what's in there.  The
fact remains, I believe, that the LAP fade is unique to this set, and
it's the only such track (although I didn't even get into the errors
they made when reduplicating picture sleeves).  I'm sorry if you don't
have all of these versions, and further doubt the authenticity of some
of the more rare Madonna records such as the JP promo LP that I
mentioned/own, but that doesn't mean you should berate someone on the
list for providing factual information.  It's disingenuous for you to
call me "misleading" and say that I'm doing a "disservice."  On the
contrary, collecting is big fun hobby for me, and if serious collectors
didn't post their knowledge here, then you'd have an even harder time
determining fact from fiction than you do now. -- Andrew

--> GOURMET <-- wrote:
> 
> Andrew Nestler wrote:.
> >
> 
> > This Is ... Nothin' But Madonna [promo album]
> >         JP promo LP:  La Isla Bonita, Open Your Heart, Material Girl, True Blue
> > (fade), Crazy For You, Lucky Star (fade), Papa Don't Preach (fade), Like
> > A Virgin, Into The Groove, Dress You Up, Holiday (edit), Borderline
> > (remix), Live To Tell (edit)
> 
>         Interesting.  A Japanese promo-only LP.  This is an official item?
> Pretty damn obscure....most people don't even play records 

Andrew, thank you for providing answers about where some of the
> tracks I inquired about are located.  I hope you understand my point
> however, which is simply that the box set contains a sizable number of
> tracks that are extremely rare and hard to find elsewhere, and some of
> which were promo only tracks beforehand.  Therefore it is a good deal
> for a lot of fans who don't have access to such exclusive, rare, old
> collector's items like you might, and in light of that the box set
> should not be put down in terms of its musical content, even if it has
> other shortcomings and does not provide tons of new material.
> 
>         In discussing products it's important to be realistic, and not simply
> technical, in evaulating their value; otherwise you're doing a
> disservice to those who put stock in your views, which are presented
> as fact.  Even the vast majority of collectors don't have access to
> Japanese only promo LPs, for example -- if people want the exclusive
> edits they contain, they must look at the box set.  Therefore it's
> extremely misleading to say that the only "unique" thing on the set is
> the LAP edit -- "unique" can have a wider meaning than you allow it,
> in your strict, narrow, technical interpretation -- but for the
> majority of people reading your post, there are indeed MANY "unique"
> tracks on the set, and they should be aware of that.
> 
>         G O R D O N